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  Are Jehovah's Witnesses parasites?

  by moshe in

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  i sometimes felt guilty when i was a jw by taking advantage of the system and not putting anything back.

  like schools- jw's want good schools for their kids but would never serve on the pta or other school committee.

  doctors- oh how they want the best medical care, but they discourage their children from getting an advanced degree to become a doctor.

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  zen nudist

  in free countries, free citizens can persue happiness in any way they wish and if they dont meet up to your ideal fantasies

  for their lives, check your premises.
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  Is Change Possible for Homosexuals?

  by nicolaou in

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  i don't know, you'd think we'd be used to reading crap like this but it still gets my goat.. nic' .

  *** w74 8/15 p. 487 is change possible for homosexuals?

  thinking transformed.

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  zen nudist

  Again I feel you are looking at the NON-REPRESENTATIVE examples of homosexuality. No one is saying some people don't become gay because of experience or deliberate decision. But the majority? It is scarsely credible.

  I did state that I dont know the exactly chain of events or what makes it happen, I would not pretend to know this, and I have found nothing which can point to any specifics in this regard either, what I am saying is that I believe it is very likely a combination of many variables and factors and no one is born specifically one way or the other from anything I can gather. Humans, like our banobo cousins seem to use sex for far more than reproduction... it has part of our socialization and a bonding agent more than it is for just having babies...

  from what I observe of humans in general it seems that many men love each other minus the sex more than any females they know and the boundry line that prevents sex is more or less a mental illusion more than a fact of biology....

  while I was still a JW, I fell into temptation and almost committed fornication and was amazed that there was no alarm bells, no sense of any force holding me back but my own internal guilt and fears... and when it comes to homosexuality my sense of revolution is likewise apparently no more than a mental prejudice that I have no desire to overcome and no need...but I suspect I could without much problem if the circumstances were altered enough.... just like heteros in prison who do not become homosexuals once they are released.
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  Is Change Possible for Homosexuals?

  by nicolaou in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i don't know, you'd think we'd be used to reading crap like this but it still gets my goat.. nic' .

  *** w74 8/15 p. 487 is change possible for homosexuals?

  thinking transformed.

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  I have a question for Tetra and others that see evolution as the most likely explanation for life as we know it....How is homosexuality's continued existence explained? If it is genetically determined, how is the allel or group of allels selected for when the end result in such behavior does not result in succeeding generations? It would have to be a "linked" characteristic that was so strong that it was "carried" baggage, so to speak! Even at that, it would have to have a genotypic expression that is selected for by the bearing of offspring with that same genotype.

  Suggests that maybe it is not genetic...or ??

  while humans have some reflexive programming, there is far more aquired programming by experiences which gets linked to partially formed systems... the sex system exists and can be triggered to give very pleasant stimulation which can cause attachments similar to any sort of drug addiction... combine this with fear and excitement of the forbidden and fetishes and other non-standard desires can result... there seems to be certain imprinting times, not unlike some animals, where events prior and after these critical times frames dont matter as much as what happens during these time periods.... it has been found by some researchers that drugs like LSD can erase many of the aquired imprints and then cause a re-imprinting based on current circumstances.

  I personally dont believe most children are born hetero nor homosexual and dont know what either of them means but acquire this by experiences which are far to variable to show any direct cause and effect relationships.... I dont believe sexual desires are chosen, but discovered just like one discovers they like chocolate over vanilla or vice versa.... the strength of those desires seems likewise a discovery. perhaps if an egghead child learned of imprinting they could directly cause their own sexual desire choice, but few seem to understand that much at the critical ages.
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  Are You Afraid To Die?

  by minimus in

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  do you every worry about dying?

  do you think that you probably won't have a very long life?

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  zen nudist

  The word "Nirvana" is an intransitive version of a verb meaning "to blow out" so it means in a sence "the spontaneous cessation of a flame". That prospect is more appealing for me, especially since i love sleep so much and never want to get out of my bed in the mornings.

  In view of the Buddhist teaching of embracing Nirvana, it seems ironic that the root of the word Buddha is budh meaning "to awaken", but in fact the irony dissappears when you realise that it is only when you are fully awake that you can appreciate sleep. However, people still seem to be afraid of their own death, but at the same time, they don't fully appreciate their life and try to live it to the fullest. If life is worthless to them, why worry about death?

  actually, the buddhists do not believe in nilihism, when they say the flame is blown out, they do not mean it has stopped existing, for them such a concept is unthinkable, but what they mean is that the flame has become one with all that is, spread out to infinity if you will.
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  Are You Afraid To Die?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  do you every worry about dying?

  do you think that you probably won't have a very long life?

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  I have never known a moment when I did not exist and I never will.

  fear is anticipation of pain and since I have never and can never know what it is like to be non-existant, there is no reason to fear it.

  if ignorance is bliss why are so many afraid of the unknown?
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  What is Zen

  by Enigma One in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after dumping the dub's i was against all religion of any kind.

  slowly but surely i started to embrace a belief system that matched my own internal one.

  part of my job takes me to asia.

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  The dreamer sits in the eye of the storm... if he keeps his mind where his dream body resides, the eye, he finds no storm, but if he places his mind into the future or the past or the alternatives realities of what if and if only to the sides he finds the nightmares of storm.... when the dreamer becomes lucid, he realizes he is dreaming and that the eye, the storm and his own awareness are all one and there never was anything to fear or dread in any of them. -- the only reality he knows is the dream, yet this reality is perfect until he compares it to something it is not.

  if you can sit on your ass and breathe, you can do zen.
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  Is this not clearly anti-Christianity?

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. social
  2. current

  http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13475163,00.html

  anger over crucifix ban

  updated: 16:51, tuesday december 06, 2005. a row has broken out after a teenager was banned from wearing a crucifix at a school where sikhs can carry ceremonial daggers.. sam morris, 16, was reportedly sent home from sinfin community school, derby, after she refused to remove a gold cross on a necklace.. she was told wearing a crucifix was not compulsory for christians, so the necklace breached dress codes.. other pupils are allowed to wear kirpan daggers and metal bracelets, as they are classed as religious symbols, said the daily express.. gcse student sam missed two days of study before her mother debra saunders, 37, allowed her to return to school without the necklace.. christian and conservative mp ann widdecombe insisted a crucifix was not costume jewellery.. she said: "to persecute a young girl like this for her religious beliefs, whatever they are, is unacceptable.".

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  zen nudist

  seems to me this is about personal belief not orginized religion, the girl clearly felt that her cross was a magical object in her own belief system and the school demeaned her personal belief based on their concept of a group belief. heaven forbid people being allowed to worship as they individually desired.
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  As a JW did you ever have a personal relationship with God?

  by Evanescence in

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  as a jehovah's witness did you ever have a personal relationship with god?.

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  zen nudist

  To some it up, I thought I had a relationship with Jehovah. But I was doing all the talking. It was like I was rambling on the telephone only to realize that the other caller isn't on the line. I effectively said "Hello is anyone there"? ....then hung up the phone.

  that about said it all.... I always ponder how people can claim to have an RELATIONSHIP... but I think it is possible that some program their own subconscious with such emotional expectations that it gives them the "feeling" that they seek to confirm their belief in god[s]. there is something I read about and have seen on TV called the GOD MODULE in the brain which when activated gives the one it has been activated in, the profound sensation of being in the presence of a godlike being...and so when some claim to have this relationship, I think they truly believe they have had such a divine experience.... and they then claim to KNOW that God[s] exist, etc... by their own personal experiences which no amount of logic nor reason could ever shake them... only if they themselves got suspicious could they break free of this Belief System....

  some of them means of activating this god module relate to drugs, hypnotic inductions, musical entrancements, meditation, etc...religions seems to be founded around creating the conditions necessary to activate this part in at least some of their adherents.

  if you can be with the one you want, love the one you're with is playing in my mind for some reason (^_^)
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  To Rebel or not to Rebel? that is the question!

  by freedomlover in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am truly looking for your honesty on this issue...not that i think any of you have been dishonest - i just don't want the sugar coated version of pollyanna lines.. i have spoken about this subject privately with one of you - ;) - and also with my hubby.

  however, i'm wondering if i'm in the minority here when i bring this subject up.

  being raised a jw i had to be so straight for so long.

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  what do you really want? what is your goal behind all goals?

  I find there is only one goal behind every goal we have, peace of mind.... we want to be free of pain, anxiety, boredom, want and desire... in other words we want to be satisfied and content.... but being a dynamic living being, this only lasts for small amounts of time and we lose it so quickly it is almost like we never found it....

  you want to rebel, why? because you found the straight jacket too tight, it was painful and produced anxiety and distress and now you want it off!!! but you dont want to lurch completely out of control and cause yourself even more pain do you?

  every move we make is a gamble to some degree, but with your best skill you need to chose from your options availible to you in each moment and then assess the results.... that is really all there is. wishing life was more only causes more anxiety and distress.
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  JW mom told 6 y/o grandson Santa was fake

  by unbeliever in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  and that christmas trees were pagan sticks.

  she really did it this time.

  he does not understand what a pagan stick is but he sure understands about santa not being real.

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  zen nudist

  sometimes a cigar is just a cigar - Freud